is there onaah on pidyon haben?, shichrur avadim?,kidushin? both if the object was worth 6 and not 5 and if the price was agreed to but found to be unreasonable?
<p>Shalom,</p>
<p>HaRav Schachter's responce is as follows:</p>
<p>Pidyon HaBen: No, he doesn't have to pay a penny more than the five coins. Any overpay must be returned.</p>
<p>Shichrur Avadim: </p>
<p>- Eved Kenaani: The Gemara says Avadim Hukshu leKarkaos, and the Issur Onaah applies to Karka, only the penalty doesn't.</p>
<p>- Eved Ivri: The Rishonim debate if the above Gemara applies to Eved Ivri, as well, but the din would be the same with respect to Onaah.</p>
<p>Kiddushin: There's no Onaah, but Lo Samchah Da'atah, she doesn't rely on the value, that's why the Minhag is to use a stoneless ring.</p>
<p>Please ask more questions.</p>
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Author: mark shapiro
is there onaah on pidyon haben?, shichrur avadim?,kidushin? both if the object was worth 6 and not 5 and if the price was agreed to but found to be unreasonable?
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<p>Shalom,</p> <p>HaRav Schachter's responce is as follows:</p> <p>Pidyon HaBen: No, he doesn't have to pay a penny more than the five coins. Any overpay must be returned.</p> <p>Shichrur Avadim: </p> <p>- Eved Kenaani: The Gemara says Avadim Hukshu leKarkaos, and the Issur Onaah applies to Karka, only the penalty doesn't.</p> <p>- Eved Ivri: The Rishonim debate if the above Gemara applies to Eved Ivri, as well, but the din would be the same with respect to Onaah.</p> <p>Kiddushin: There's no Onaah, but Lo Samchah Da'atah, she doesn't rely on the value, that's why the Minhag is to use a stoneless ring.</p> <p>Please ask more questions.</p> <p> </p>