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The Avnei Nezer (Responsa, O.C., 128) asserts that the two cases are not comparable. In the case of the catch, the putting of the object to rest (hanachah) was not done at all by the thrower; in fact, left alone, it would have been placed down elsewhere. In the case of cooking, the total effect of the cooking was a joint effort of the one who placed the food on the fire and the one who stirred it.
The Afikei Yam (II, 4:3) discusses why the cooking situation is not one of “two who have done it” which is normally exempt. He suggests that this principle is only applicable when, in order to assign liability, the actions of both individuals must be combined. However, the stirrer could have performed his action on a pot that had been on the fire from before Shabbat, and thus has no dependency on the first one. He concludes, though, unsatisfied as to the liability of the first party, as the act of cooking only was completed through the action of the second.
Collections: Rabbi Feldman Mini Shiur (Daf)
References: Shabbat: 5a , Beitza: 34a
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Mini Shiur (Daf) Volume 1
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BCBM
Venue: Cong. Bnai Yeshurun (Teaneck, NJ)
Gemara: - Duration: 32 min
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Daily Shiur
Venue: YU Wilf Campus
Gemara: - Duration: 1 hr 15 min
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