2011-12-5 JH 11 Satmar Chassidim vs. the Kotel PART 1

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Venue: YU Israel YU Israel

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Collections: Rabbi Rakeffet: Jewish History 2011

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PART 1 of 2 In the first twenty seconds, which were cut off, the shiur was dedicated l'ilui nishmat Rabbi Dr. Velvel Greene Ztl

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    1. Title: Birchat Kohanim on Shabbat
      Author: False == 1 ? Anonymous : Elliot Rosner &##44;

      <p>I always wondered why there was a tradition in America not to have Birchat Kohanim on Yom Tov that came out on Shabbat.&nbsp;</p> <p>Today, people have changed and said it was minhag shtut</p> <p>I have a theory. you mentioned that Shabtai Tzvi wanted to institute duchan on Shabbat and the traditional Jews said no way.&nbsp;</p> <p>Based on that it could be that people became confused and stopped duchan on shabbat all the time, even on Yom Tov that&nbsp;comes out on Shabbat.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>

    2. Title: Inaccuracies
      Author: False == 1 ? Anonymous : Levi Hirsch &##44;

      <p><strong id="internal-source-marker_0.5001570710446686" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-weight: normal;"> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">There were many misrepresentations made in this lecture. &nbsp;Unfortunately, there isn't the time to go through all of the errors, but allow me to point out a few inaccuracies and errors.</span></p> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> &nbsp;</span></p> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">1) The way you sumarized the question posed to Rav Yaakov Sasportes ztl was incorrect. &nbsp;The question addresed by Rav Sasportes ztl was whether in light of Shabsai Tzvi ys'v being revealed as a moshiach sheker, should the the practice of saying Birchas Cohahim - which the Shabsai tzvi ys'v followers instituted in chutz laaretz - continue. &nbsp;B'kitzur, the answer given was that even if halachicly preferable, the practice of birchas kohanim should stop because continuing it would give chizuk to the followers of Shabsai Tzvi ys'v. &nbsp;The source for such a din is the halacha that sefer torah sh'kasav bo min yisraf. &nbsp;The Rambam says the reason for this halacha is shelo l'haniach shem l'apikorsim.</span></p> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt;" dir="ltr"><strong id="internal-source-marker_0.5001570710446686" style="font-weight: normal;"> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt; display: inline !important;" dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt; display: inline !important;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">2) Pritzus isn't a problem at the Kosel? Really?</span></p> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt; display: inline !important;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></span></p> <p style="margin: 0pt 6pt; display: inline !important;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></span></p> </strong></p> </strong></p> <p><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">3) The Satmar Rebbe ztl never said that the victory in 1967 was maaseh satan. &nbsp;You don&rsquo;t have to get very far in Al HaGeulah to know this. &nbsp;I guess that unlike VaYoel Moshe, &nbsp;to be a good zionist you don&rsquo;t have to know Al HaGeulah baal peh. &nbsp;There are at least five places in the Satmar Rebbe&rsquo;s ztl writings he openly states that the victory in &lsquo;67 was completely b&rsquo;derech tevah. &nbsp;The easiest place to look would be pages 36 and 138 in Al HaGeulah. &nbsp;And by the way, it&rsquo;s not just the Satmar Rebbe ztl that said this. &nbsp;Take a look at the </span><a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol49no1/html_files/arab_israeli_war_1.html"><span style="font-size: 11px; font-family: Verdana; color: #1155cc; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">CIA website</span></a><span style="font-size: 15px; font-family: Arial; background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. &nbsp;</span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p>

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